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Post by gointowork on Mar 29, 2006 22:24:58 GMT -5
i heard only 4 departments are going out of the whole county? can anyone confirm w/ the departments?
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Post by nassaufools on Mar 29, 2006 23:53:20 GMT -5
Westbury eng & ladder to E271 & L124 Bushwick
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Post by ieatsmoke on Mar 30, 2006 0:08:34 GMT -5
bring donuts  |
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Post by vollyff on Mar 30, 2006 0:08:48 GMT -5
brooklyn you lucky bastards
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Post by jrsl2362 on Mar 30, 2006 4:44:36 GMT -5
L124 eh?
good spot
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Post by mfddispatcher30 on Mar 30, 2006 8:22:15 GMT -5
I hear now that the drill has been postponed?  |
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Post by ieatsmoke on Mar 30, 2006 10:52:47 GMT -5
ok, no donuts then.....
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Post by BNN3440 on Mar 30, 2006 12:40:38 GMT -5
Drill is still on as of this afternoon, but now I am hearing that certain companies are going to Randalls Island for a multi-unit drill....... ;D
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Post by ladder3 on Mar 30, 2006 13:08:52 GMT -5
Anyone have a list or any idea of what dept's would be involved
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Post by gointowork on Mar 30, 2006 13:43:03 GMT -5
rockville center, oyster bay, wesbury anyone know the 4th?
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Post by Firebird40622 on Mar 30, 2006 13:44:16 GMT -5
I think East Rockaway too
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Post by ladder47 on Mar 30, 2006 16:28:34 GMT -5
820,830,960 and both the 550 companies.
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Post by ladder3 on Mar 30, 2006 18:30:37 GMT -5
I'd like to just go and watch some of the big ladder trucks everyone loves to buy trying to drive around in the city streets. That should be interesting.
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Post by 8truck on Mar 31, 2006 11:25:58 GMT -5
about 8 years agao, i had our T/L in Brooklyn then Manhattan for a dedication. Managed just fine! 93' Mid Mount LTI
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Post by squid on Mar 31, 2006 22:48:18 GMT -5
The following is the link and posting from the FDNY UFA union regarding the position on the mutual aid drill with Long Island. The reason the drill was scaled down and moved to Randels Island was the push back from the union. The City still needs to go ahead with a scaled down version for NIMS and HLS reasons. www.ufalocal94.org/652_main/652_2006/652_20of06.html 65-2 #20 March 31, 2006 MUTUAL AID DRILL On Sunday April 2nd the Department plans to conduct a mutual aid drill between FDNY units in Queens and Brooklyn and various volunteer companies from Nassau County. The drill will begin at 1000 hours and run through 1200 hours. During this time, our members are expected to instruct the volunteer units in the familiarization and operation of our equipment and apparatus, as well as the quarters in which we house such equipment. Members of the UFA are in NO WAY OBLIGATED to follow orders from anyone other than FDNY Lieutenants, Captains, and Chief Officers. You are not instructors and should not be held responsible for teaching Long Island Firefighters how to do the job of a New York City Firefighter. In addition, being asked to operate unfamiliar equipment poses a safety risk to those involved. If any problem should arise in which you feel that you are being ordered to go above and beyond your job description, you should take a mark and bring the problem directly to your company officer or chief officer. Rely on their leadership in order for any concern to be properly addressed. However, if an order is given you must obey it. The UFA and UFOA support the notion of increasing our preparedness by providing the citizens of New York with proper fire protection. The best way to accomplish this is the immediate re-opening of closed fire companies and placing 5 firefighters on all Engine Companies at all times. Any UFA member found to take part in this joint exercise as a member of a Volunteer Company will be in violation of Article XVI, Section 3 of the UFA Constitution and be subject to expulsion from the Uniformed Firefighters Association. Fraternally. Stephen J. Cassidy President Joseph A. Miccio Recording Secretary |
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Post by BNN3440 on Mar 31, 2006 23:44:32 GMT -5
Who cares? If you don't want to go, then STAY home sunday morning. If you do go, just keep your mouth shut and do what you there to do.
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Post by 1stdue on Apr 1, 2006 0:18:06 GMT -5
go on their rant site and see how they talk about us, and how they are teaching us how to do their job at this drill. i don't now about anybody here but we're fireman to and know how to fight fires..we're just trying to help just in case. By the way if this shitbird cassidy would just ask us to help like fellow fireman we wouldn't show up so they can prove they need to open more firehouse but no "we are just volunteers"
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Post by squid on Apr 1, 2006 9:32:14 GMT -5
Who cares? If you don't want to go, then STAY home sunday morning. If you do go, just keep your mouth shut and do what you there to do. Was not sure if anyone cares, thought it was interesting? Like to go to participate to do what we are there to do, but unfortunatly, most LI FDs originally planed to go have been taken of the drill. FDNY rant site is interesting on a firematic level for All Hands and around the kitchen to here what effects the members as a whole. Bueteful day today, I am out of here... |
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Post by 8truck on Apr 1, 2006 10:14:54 GMT -5
Just remember, their rant is similar to ours, not everyone from FDNY are on it. Its only a portion of members. Just becasue they may feel a certain way doesn't mean all the members feel that way.
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Post by Gargamel37 on Apr 1, 2006 10:23:44 GMT -5
funny because a lot of city FF'ers are also volunteers...  |
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Post by LIFireEMS on Apr 1, 2006 12:23:04 GMT -5
A lot on this site too.
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Post by ladder47 on Apr 1, 2006 20:30:43 GMT -5
I'm not surprised by the memo...it par for the course but I like to think of it as Business..not personal.....the union is there to create and support paid Firefighters...they look at the Vollie system as a group of under trained scabs.....NOT everyone, but the Union delegates and Officials...the head honchos, no doubt about it......and don't let them tell you otherwise.....if Nassau and Suffolk became part of NYC tomorrow and we all became paid NYC firefighters and dues paying UFA members, we would be their Brothers overnight.....sad but true........
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Post by tellmware2go on Apr 2, 2006 8:23:28 GMT -5
I know it couldn't be much later but here is the official players list for today
Oyster Bay FD supposed to bring an engine.
Oyster Bay Atlantic Steamers supposed to bring a ladder.
Great Neck Alerts supposed to bring an engine.
Great Neck Vigilants supposed to bring a ladder.
Westbury supposed to bring and engine and a ladder.
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Post by BNN3440 on Apr 2, 2006 8:47:19 GMT -5
Both Oyster Bay co's went to the "rock" Oyster Bay Fd brought E-552 and Atlantic Steamer brought L-551
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Post by wqce207a on Apr 2, 2006 23:04:40 GMT -5
You really can't blame the union. Bloomberg hates the FD. Next thing you know he will start a vollie company to cut down on OT.
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Post by ladder47 on Apr 3, 2006 11:04:51 GMT -5
You really can't blame the union. Bloomberg hates the FD. Next thing you know he will start a vollie company to cut down on OT. You sure can blame the union....there is a right way and wrong way to make your point/case...bashing the Vollies in Nassau and Suffolk and Westchester and Rockland is not the right way......it's funny that there are many, many high ranking officers in FDNY that are Vollies or started out in Volunteer units............but those individuals never run for UFA positions because they know the deal.....to bad. |
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Post by BLASTER99 on Apr 4, 2006 9:07:26 GMT -5
The drill went fine on sunday. The fdny personell had questions as to the way run our day to day operations. They were civil and not looking down upon us. The building we performed operations on was a mixed occupancy type. both crews worked together with no animosity. They had questions as to how our rigs were set up and why. Basically we (A.S. and O.B.) have unique set ups on our apparatus, due to the fact we don`t have the luxury as most depts in nassau as having a fire hydrant every 400 or 500 ft. A union suit stopped by as to check to see no union personell were on our rigs. But all in all it seemed to work out well.
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Post by Bull66 on Apr 4, 2006 9:51:34 GMT -5
How did any of the other departments that participated in this drill feel? What kind of scenarios did other departments that participated have?
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Post by nassaufools on Apr 4, 2006 11:34:07 GMT -5
Westbury went to the quarters of E-271 L- 124 B-28 they drilled with company. Later a Divison Chief showed up. After the drill they went back to their quarters and they cooked them lunch on problems were reported. Alot of vollies in that house.
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Post by Ex-Capt371 on Apr 4, 2006 12:10:55 GMT -5
Regardless of what union they do or dont belong to, regardless of their views twords vollies, good or bad, they are our brothers. just because we dont belong to the same union, or share the same ideals, we all perform one job. We are a family, and no union will ever change that. Even the most staunch anti-volly union member would give the shirt off his back for a brother. And i would do the same. I would hope you would all do the same.
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