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Post by kapitanradio on Jun 23, 2008 10:46:53 GMT -5
New license application posted on FCC ULS site:
483.800 simpled channel for Paging
482.900/485.900 repeat pair for Main Repeater
484.800/ 487.800 repeat pair for Fire Ground Repeater
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Post by Ex-Capt371 on Jun 24, 2008 7:39:33 GMT -5
I thought FG was not supposed to be repeated. Not just for EFFD, but for everyone.
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Post by kapitanradio on Jun 24, 2008 8:43:09 GMT -5
Perhaps EFFD intends to run FG direct on input frequency, and use repeat to enable dispatch and incoming apparatus to follow on scene FG operation.
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Post by kapitanradio on Jul 9, 2008 15:26:20 GMT -5
East Farmingdale's license was granted today !
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Post by exhorns on Jul 9, 2008 19:08:35 GMT -5
Boy John. You just couldn't wait to get that out there, could you?
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Post by dave3825us on Oct 27, 2008 23:41:07 GMT -5
Any idea when these new freqs will be active???
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Post by exhorns on Oct 28, 2008 9:06:16 GMT -5
Info will be posted once in service and Chiefs Office approves notification.
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Post by axe1 on Oct 28, 2008 10:33:28 GMT -5
Who says fireground can not be repeated I have read the NFPA 1200 on radios and nowhere is it stated that fireground can't be repeated. The only thing they state is a PAC repeater (moblie) should NOT be used and some dept still use. Then there is a whole section on trucking which for the most part IS repeated anyway through a computer.
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Post by exhorns on Oct 29, 2008 12:17:11 GMT -5
I think you mean trunking.
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Post by newsnick175 on Oct 29, 2008 17:10:39 GMT -5
I think NFPA states that conventional repeaters should not be used for fire ground comms. As far as trunking goes, extensive testing should be done to determine were any problems exist with coverage. The simplest ways are usually the best, go simplex.
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Post by axe1 on Oct 29, 2008 18:44:14 GMT -5
As I stated above NOWHERE in the NFPA 1200 (communications) that conventional repeaters are not allowed to be used on fireground. If you can find it please post it. Any how why is it trunking being seen around the counrty better than conventional. I have used both and think conventional is the the way to go from a fd standpoint just my two cents.
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Post by intheknow on Oct 29, 2008 19:11:54 GMT -5
Axe 1,
Your'e post was so aggrevating that I actually wasted my time and researched the many NFPA codes that touch upon Fire and Emergency Communications Systems. So if you would have taken the time to read, and post something infomative you would have found the following::
As stated in, NFPA 1221 Standard for the Installation, Maintenance, and Use of Emergency Services Communications Systems / 2002 Edition / Chapter 8 Dispatching Systems
8.3 Radio Dispatching Systems.
8.3.1 General.
8.3.1.1* All radio communications shall comply with the rules and regulations governing wireless communications in the country of operation.
8.3.1.2 The communications center shall be equipped for radio communications with emergency response units and portable radios.
8.3.1.3* A separate simplex radio channel shall be provided for on-scene tactical communications.
8.3.1.4 Communications system design shall be such that a portable radio is capable of operating within the dispatch area without the use of mobile radio frequency (RF) amplifiers.
8.3.1.5 If the radio includes scanning capability, it shall have an automatic priority feature that causes the radio receiver to revert automatically to its primary channel when the channel is being used.
8.3.1.6 Visual indication shall be provided to alert that radio equipment is turned on.
8.3.1.7 With the exception of mobile and portable radios, radio antenna systems shall include surge arresters.
8.3.1.8 Radio communications equipment shall be capable of transmitting a distinctive alert tone for emergency traffic as required in NFPA 1561, Standard on Emergency Service Incident Management System.
As stated above, On scene tactical communications shall be simplex.
Further,
8.3.4.1.26* Tactical Communications. Trunked system talkgroups shall not be used to fulfill the requirement for the provision of a simplex radio channel for on-scene tactical communications.
further,
8.3.6.5 Portable radios shall be capable of multiple-channel operation to enable on-scene simplex radio communications that are independent of dispatch channels.
The above shall serve to calrify the discussion.
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Post by newsnick175 on Oct 30, 2008 14:19:28 GMT -5
I hope NFPA would also stand for non-digital comms for fire ground. Every thing new is not always better.
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Post by dave3825us on Nov 2, 2008 13:26:10 GMT -5
Wow what a difference 482.9000 loud and clear....@ 1:20 pm
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Post by Gargamel37 on Nov 2, 2008 21:17:48 GMT -5
are they off 45.32 ?
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Post by newsnick175 on Nov 3, 2008 12:38:30 GMT -5
The problem with 482 is the many MDT data channels. In fact 482.9125 is one of them. This could cause interference with long range reception. With in the district should be no problem.
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Post by Luke on Nov 4, 2008 13:19:55 GMT -5
Negative. They are still using this freq. I haven't heard much on the UHF freq as of late. Some people are reporting they are playing around with the UHF freq at scenes.
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Post by Ex-Capt371 on Nov 7, 2008 11:25:45 GMT -5
Good Luck EFFD, hope the system works out for you.
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Post by Gargamel37 on Nov 8, 2008 7:25:22 GMT -5
are they going to uhf paging also?
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Post by newsnick175 on Nov 22, 2008 15:31:55 GMT -5
Yes, 484.8 I believe
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Post by suddenlyseemore on Nov 28, 2008 14:43:24 GMT -5
That NFPA you posted is out of date -- the section numbers aren't even the same now.
The latest NFPA 1221 is 2007 and I found nothing in there like that prohibiting trunked communications in fireground operations
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Post by fdactionshots on Dec 30, 2008 2:49:11 GMT -5
Use trunked and rely on your county of dist to "guarantee" your call for help will be received by someone within a few blocks, or at least the 'guy up the block with the scanner'
Just my 2 cents, nothing personal, just backing what I believe is the point of this now
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Post by dave3825us on Jan 6, 2009 13:25:26 GMT -5
Any updated info on the new freqs yet? I have everything programed in but still primarily here them on 45.32.
And 45.32 lists kec765 as its call sign. The new freqs list WQJA812 as the call sign. Is E F F D changing the call sign??
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Post by newsnick175 on Jan 6, 2009 22:37:00 GMT -5
The UHF xmiters will auto ID [morse code]. They will want to change their sign-on by saying "1-5-0" since the auto IDer will end the need to say the call sign.
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Post by Dispatch on Feb 15, 2009 18:44:49 GMT -5
Does anyone have an actual time table for the big move to UHF?
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Post by Crown Manor East on Feb 16, 2009 9:31:59 GMT -5
Does anyone have an actual time table for the big move to UHF? sooner than later... the committee/chiefs office is going to have everything in order before they switch us completely...
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Post by Dispatch on Oct 11, 2009 16:44:18 GMT -5
It sounds like East Farm is finally up and running on their new UHF repeater 482.900 MHz. Good Luck guys!
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Post by nlfdexcapt on Oct 14, 2009 4:13:32 GMT -5
Yep...I heard them loud and clear the other day
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