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Post by BEDROCKCHIEF on Mar 9, 2008 20:00:34 GMT -5
OKay, something new. Who runs as companies? And who runs as departments? Do you like it or is the other way better?
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Post by Ex-Capt371 on Mar 9, 2008 22:21:24 GMT -5
Central Islip runs every call as a 'General Response". we have companies, but strictly for administrative purposes. We respond as a department, and for the time being is better. But I would like to think that with the rapid growth of our district and number of callse, we move to a comapany response or an area response. This might lessen the burden on all members, and increase response knowing that the alarm is in your area and promote some more pride.
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Post by TRUCK1LT on Mar 10, 2008 13:58:10 GMT -5
Commack runs Generals 5a-5p and company's from 5p-5a. Phone alarm gets a general response 24/7
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Post by suddenlyseemore on Mar 10, 2008 15:10:05 GMT -5
theres no reason to wake an entire department up at 3AM for a dumpster fire, wires down, run-of-the-mill mva, etc etc
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Post by jjklongisland on Mar 10, 2008 15:38:10 GMT -5
Sayville runs as a Department... Companies (Resolute Hose and Hook and Ladder) are also for administration duties, fund raising, functions, etc... As far as station alarms, depending on the run, we will run station alarms, but its normally at night and on rare occasions...
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Post by CFD208 on Mar 10, 2008 16:14:43 GMT -5
Right, for a dumpster fire, wires fuel spill etc just assign 1 company.
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Post by jjklongisland on Mar 10, 2008 18:42:15 GMT -5
What if you only have a couple of people show up, or no qualified driver???
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Post by lad9205 on Mar 10, 2008 19:23:35 GMT -5
I agree in the middle of the night the only thing that should be a general alarm is a 13 or a 23 mva everything else should be a station alarm. Why shold you get woken up for a car fire or dumpster fire that one engine can handle.
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Post by ladder463 on Mar 12, 2008 8:26:52 GMT -5
WE USE TO RUN COMPANY RESPONSE BUT AS THE COMPANIES GOT LIGHTER AND OLDER WE DECIDED TO MADE EVERYTHING GENERAL. NOW WE HAVE A DUTY ENGINE FROM 1900 TILL 0500 SEEMS TO WORK OUT REALLY WELL. LIKE EVERYTHING NEW THERE ARE SOME ISSUES BUT WERE TRYING TO HAS IT OUT.
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Post by ladder463 on Mar 12, 2008 8:28:30 GMT -5
HASH IT OUT SORRY!
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Post by CFD208 on Mar 12, 2008 18:12:20 GMT -5
What if you only have a couple of people show up, or no qualified driver??? They'll activate the rest of the companies then. Its very rare. When we know we're the only company we'll make sure we get out. |
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Post by BEDROCKCHIEF on Mar 12, 2008 21:45:54 GMT -5
Okay now lets go in a different direction. When you respond, can you get on another company's truck? ie, engine company member responding on the truck cause you missed the engine?
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Post by OnADeuce on Mar 12, 2008 23:50:14 GMT -5
as for the first question, Dix Hills SOP's are very similar to Commack's. DH however does not have a separate truck company. Each of the three stations has a class A and a heavy-rescue pumper which are both fitted with engine and truck tools (the latter also being fitted with hydraulic tools). Although, Company 1 has a quint instead of a class A. Companies are simply based on where in the district you live, not engine v. truck. Whether you're company is responding as a truck or engine depends on where the call is and if you're first-due, or second-due, etc.
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Post by scannerman5555 on Mar 13, 2008 7:47:54 GMT -5
Brentwood F.D. run's ....All Col call daytime 6am - 6 pm ; night time they run Company call
in the dist.
col. 1 East > 2 class A pumpers
col. 2 North > 2 class A pumpers
col. 4 West > 2 class A pumpers
col. 5 main > 2 class A pumpers also spare pumper and brush truck
col. H & L 1 main > tower ladder / heavy rescue also tac rescue too
col. 6 pineaire > 2 class A pumpers
col. H & L 2 ? pineaire > ladder
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Post by XCAPT1 on Mar 13, 2008 12:17:52 GMT -5
My department is set up like CI's. We have members of all the companies spread over both stations, but run general response. I am in the truck company and my priority is to my truck, but I respond on whatever the OP's say to roll on the call. As Captain I rode more in the cab of the Engines then in my Tower. I also have to agree with Capt371, I hope in time we can go to station responses for the lesser calls.
Stay Safe
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Post by lad9205 on Mar 13, 2008 18:53:47 GMT -5
In my dept we go on whatever truck is on the ramp waiting to go. We have two co's and two stations, we do not ride as co's.
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Post by Gargamel37 on Mar 13, 2008 23:00:37 GMT -5
Brentwood F.D. run's ....All Col call daytime 6am - 6 pm ; night time they run Company call
in the dist.
col. 1 East > 2 class A pumpers
col. 2 North > 2 class A pumpers
col. 4 West > 2 class A pumpers
col. 5 main > 2 class A pumpers also spare pumper and brush truck
col. H & L 1 main > tower ladder / heavy rescue also tac rescue too
col. 6 pineaire > 2 class A pumpers
col. H & L 2 ? pineaire > ladder ? scannerman, what is col.? company? |
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Post by Ex-Capt371 on Mar 14, 2008 1:36:19 GMT -5
I dont think even he knows what he is saying.
In CI, we are crossed trained on all rigs. We dont have the luxary of saying "I want to be a truckie today." You show up, get on the rig thats started, plain and simple. I dont know how departments get away with restricting personnel to a specific rig...Especially in a volunteer service where there is no promise of a crew showing up.
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Post by TRUCK1LT on Mar 15, 2008 16:29:28 GMT -5
It all depends on how your set up also Cap. We have 4 Houses. 3 Engs (1 is a quint/squad) and the Hook is out of HQ with a Tower, Rescue & Brush. There is also the spare eng @ hq that rolls only if it's in the direct vicinity of HQ and no Engs on the road. It takes all the decision making out of it. So easy a caveman could do it !  |
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Post by firnatine04856 on Mar 15, 2008 22:04:35 GMT -5
1st question:
-from 5am to 7pm its general response to any and all fire calls
-from 7pm to 5am we have "station alarms" for 23s & 12s and such. we only have minis at the stations though so if its a legit 12, the main gets activated for the gi. for mvas: if its in station 1 or station 2 area, only that station and the rescue from the main gets activated. we also respond that way for mutual aids. if the department closest to the south house or the east house 24s us for something, they get first dibs on the alarm unless they ask for a ladder or rescue. if that station cant get out, whatever is first out of the other station or the main goes.
2nd question:
the stations run as companies because they dont have the option otherwise. at the main we have jupiter-27 truck & lightning engine 1. jupiter has the ladder & gi and lightning has the engine & rescue. regardless of whether you have a 1 or a 27 on your shield, you get on whatever piece of apparatus is on the ramp.
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