|
|
Post by MJFD1625 on Feb 14, 2005 17:04:35 GMT -5
yes, if there is a spot on the rig we can ride first due. If a FF comes and you see them all juniors must get off the rig and you can go on the second due..or third due rigs. You must go through training before you can ride on the rig and soon being put into effect a
"Ride-Along-Test" that you must pass to ride the rig.
I do live outside the MLFD district but right on the service road which is a straight shot to Community Drive.
|
|
|
|
Post by Bull66 on Feb 14, 2005 17:08:50 GMT -5
Now riding on any rig are you assigned a task or you are just there taking up space?
|
|
|
|
Post by MJFD1625 on Feb 14, 2005 17:18:04 GMT -5
if you are riding on the Engine your assignments can vary from looking for hydrants to grabbing tools to hitting the hydrant and flatening out house and advancing hose..but still staying clear of house..packin hose things of that sort
on the truck you do not do anything unles you are told so by an officer or if the chuaffer needs soemthing. we grab tools, OV if they needed it. but ONLY told by an officer. mop up work, re-filling scott packs assisting the officers and chiefs..get the idea?
|
|
|
|
Post by Pride373 on Feb 14, 2005 21:27:50 GMT -5
|
|
|
|
Post by BNN3440 on Feb 14, 2005 22:42:24 GMT -5
on the truck you do not do anything unles you are told so by an officer or if the chuaffer needs soemthing. we grab tools, OV if they needed it. but ONLY told by an officer. mop up work, re-filling scott packs assisting the officers and chiefs..get the idea?
the OV? Are you kidding me? Do you know what can happen if the OV fuc*s up? Im not so sure I believe that any chief or commissioner in their right mind would allow a JR to be the OVM.......
Now don't get me wrong I am 100% in favor of the junior's program, but it should be limited to training, involve them in ALL training at a supervised level, so when they join they are 1 step ahead of the rest. Plus its good for retention of the volunteer service. But I think having them operate anywhere near the IDLH is a little much and a liablity towards the ff's on the scene and themselves..
|
|
|
|
Post by rhc5928 on Feb 15, 2005 0:58:56 GMT -5
NOW Chris why would you join co-2 when you live 3 blocks from heights hqts and 5 blocks from rr sta-2.serve your own community help your own naibors.I can tell you will probly be an active guy and eager to learn.What good is all your training going to do when you show up late.Yes you will probly be hanging around the firehouse alot but you will see that gets old quickly,you will meet some chick or dude and want to hang out withe her or him insted of the fire house.The only guys that join co"s that they dont live in are paper firemen.they join to race or play ball.I dont think your doing any of that.So fill out your application for rhfc and drop it off.see you then..
|
|
|
|
Post by ExChief19 on Feb 15, 2005 13:42:40 GMT -5
Theres no better feeling then having your first due engine roll up and have a bunch of juniors getting off......
Looks real good to the other departments too!
Juniors should either be on the Utility Truck or else go to the scene on their Schwinns! Way too much going on when initial assignment is arriving to have juniors get in the way!
In my department, we were all given our gear along with a pager and responded to the area and had to park away from the scene. We were then expected to relieve a fireifghter making up the hydrant or else report to our Junior Chief who reported to command. Most times we went into rehab mode, pulling tarps off the rescue, setting up bottle chnges, and then getting lights and equipment set up. Theres no need for any of that on the 1st due!
And like it was said before, if you join a firehouse and do nothing but stay there, trouble is only waiting to happen! You dont want to become a Pillow Biter!
|
|
|
|
Post by MFD Truck 2 on Jul 6, 2005 0:49:39 GMT -5
Hello all, I'm from Mineola and I'm a FF, not a JR and I would like to clarify some things that our "wise" JR member said on these boards. The juniors can ride on the first due rig only under certain circumstances. If there is an open spot on the rig, then they can ride. There has been a number of times that as expected, we boot them off b\c FF's are present to take up those seats. All of our rigs are 10 man cabs. Depending on the call, we can roll the rig with a driver, officer and 4-5 FF's in the back, which leaves 3 open seats. This is to calls like AFA's and other BS we get. In the situation where the calls come over as potentially good, we kick them off right away b\c we know that FF's will fill those seats. As far as their duties go on the fireground, let me tell you as a truckie that when they ride on the truck, they in no way, shape or form will operate as an OVM. They are basically the gophers. The closest they get to a building while its burning is maybe helping throw up some ladders. As far as the engine company goes, I'm not 100% sure of their duties since I'm in the truck, but I'm sure it's really no different, they're basically gophers. I think they only time they ever make it into the building is after the fire is out and overhaul is done and it's been determined to be safe. Thats when an officer can take them in along with the probies and show them the fire room and explain what went on in there.
|
|
|
|
Post by JacksonLT on Jul 6, 2005 6:47:00 GMT -5
I would not even let them throw ladders. The should be no where near the hot zone. How does your insurance cover them?
|
|
|
|
Post by MFD Truck 2 on Jul 6, 2005 14:18:47 GMT -5
That's a good question, I'm not 100% sure since I'm not very activley involved in that part of the jr's program. If they are throwing up ladders its not alone either. It's with another FF or a probie.
|
|
|
|
Post by XCAPT1 on Jul 7, 2005 15:29:22 GMT -5
MFD Truck 2
What is the age of the Jr's you guys are putting on your trucks? My department just started letting Jr's transfer at 17. They have to meet certain requirements before they can transfer. I am not in favor of this put the decision was made at the top.
Stay Safe
|
|
|
|
Post by MFD Truck 2 on Jul 7, 2005 19:01:38 GMT -5
I think the youngest age they can join is like 15. If they're in the junior program, they can join the department at 17. If not, the youngest you can join is 18. Like XCAPT1, I also disagree with this policy. The policy wa soriginally made some years ago when there was a very large group of 17 year old juniors ready to join and the companies were in need of some new blood. We just recently had a surge of new membership including that group of juniors plus many other new members who weren't in the juniors and now we don't really need these juniors in yet and I think we should give them that extra year to mature a bit.
|
|
