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Post by ladder47 on Dec 6, 2005 19:43:37 GMT -5
Here's a topic for the board...how does everyone feel about the way some departments cover their districts during dept. dinners, batt. parades ( it's crazy when the 5th and 7th have it the same day in June) ect.... Elmont has been in Sayville, Sayville in Rockville centre, the list is endless....... my feelings on this are if at least one of the covering companies knows the area well enough and can lead the other units its not a problem...and this is if all covering companies are responding out of 1 place.
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Post by ladder3 on Dec 6, 2005 20:28:44 GMT -5
For something like a dinner or dept function using a Engine or Truck from the next dept over I believe works the best. Your familiar with the area and have there radio freq. and you can also cover your own district for the ones with only one truck. As far as for a parade were all the depts in the area are all looking for coverage so go as far as you can out of county if needed. We all have maps in the rigs
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Post by Chief241B on Dec 7, 2005 9:01:56 GMT -5
Well it would be nice if it was that easy, You have to understand that there are times when a neighboring dept is called and requested to stand-by. But a there are times those depts are unable to provide the requested rigs. This is because of the neighboring dept having their own functions, having a rig out of service, already committed to another stand-by, or just plain and simple they can not get a rig. For my depts dinner we have stand by crews consisting of 2 engs, truck , and amb from 4pm to 8am the next morning. This is broken up into 2 shifts from 4pm-12am and 12am -8am. so for 4 pieces of apparatus. The mention of a midnight stand-by to some depts was a shock. Not to mention a day before the stand-by a dept had to back out. I thought when I beacme a Chief standbys would be kinda of easy to be taken care of, I found out this is not the case. Some Depts have to check with the fire commissioners, company captains, some depts I was straight out told we don't do stand-bys. So after being burned a couple of times from certain depts, i just knew that in the future I won't call them for a standby when my dept is out of service. There area also other Depts that are great and step up to the plate time after time. These are the Depts that I call when i need something, because when they need something, I tell them let me know when and where and we will be there. It is nice to become friendly with depts outside of your neighboring depts also, because like what was posted before me, in the event of a local parade you have to go outside the Battalion and also the neighboring depts. BTW if any dept like to do standbys pm me. I have to get our dinner one together for the upcoming year in Jan.....
Be Safe
Timmy
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Post by mifd230 on Dec 7, 2005 12:31:27 GMT -5
you can always call a volley FD from the city they train at Nassau fire academy and will do a stand by if ;D
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Post by Taz on Dec 7, 2005 15:17:48 GMT -5
My dept has gone back and forth over the last few yrs from just doing a mutual aid for coverage when we are out of service or a dinner or something to having in house crews standby. Whether it be the normal mutual aid (deer park for the south, melville for the west and commack/greenlawn for the north and east) to having those depts or depts like St. James, Hicksville, Bethpage or Jericho standby. all depends on what kind of relationships the chiefs have with neighboring depts.
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Post by ging599 on Jan 6, 2006 10:53:32 GMT -5
I am a former nassau volley who is now a member in Putnam County (like 55 miles North of NYC.) What I found nuts when I joined here is that stand-by for your neighboring departments is handled just like any call in your district.
No stand-by crew in quarters (yours or the dept. you are covering), no assigned crews, nothing. You are toned out as a mutual aid call and respond as if it were a call of your own. The districts here cover huge areas and the first stand-by I did, it took us like 20 minutes for us to get on scene of an alarm that came in as smoke showing. Pretty scary.
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Post by hicksjr63 on Feb 3, 2006 21:49:45 GMT -5
When a Nassau department standbys in a Suffolk district and visa versa, what do that do, do they borrow that departments radios ?
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Post by mfddispatcher30 on Feb 3, 2006 22:14:42 GMT -5
Most of the time we borrow their radios and maps.....
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Post by hicksjr63 on Feb 3, 2006 22:50:15 GMT -5
thanks, same as in like Bethpage going up to Locust valley, they use the Low band radios ?
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Post by wstendtrk44 on Feb 6, 2006 23:17:54 GMT -5
I am a former nassau volley who is now a member in Putnam County (like 55 miles North of NYC.) What I found nuts when I joined here is that stand-by for your neighboring departments is handled just like any call in your district. No stand-by crew in quarters (yours or the dept. you are covering), no assigned crews, nothing. You are toned out as a mutual aid call and respond as if it were a call of your own. The districts here cover huge areas and the first stand-by I did, it took us like 20 minutes for us to get on scene of an alarm that came in as smoke showing. Pretty scary. Newsday would love to work with you guys |
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Post by chimneyhook on Feb 6, 2006 23:50:48 GMT -5
its pretty cool tho, seeing something like a brentwood engine roll up in rockville center or something
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Post by mfd333 on Feb 7, 2006 9:20:25 GMT -5
I think its def fun when your massapequa and you show upa t a call in bayville it really is interesting to look at the homeowners face. But also what you need to consider with districts next to you is they may have a very small dept if they have only 1 ladder or 1 bus its hard to ask them to cover with the one and only they have
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Post by fow on Feb 11, 2006 15:48:59 GMT -5
I am troubled by the stand-by situation when one town has it's dinner and they deplete manpower in the town right next to them by using them as a "stand-by". Now there are two towns with a limited number of available responders. Having a town from out of the immediate area would reduce the possibility of response problems IMO. I recall a few years back seeing Hicksville and Point Lookout help each other out for dinners and parades. Long Beach was made aware of this and they were "automatic" on alarms. Always seemed to leave enough coverage for all down there.
Hicksville then had all surrounding towns at full capacity.
There SHOULD be a policy in effect to limit the number of dinners on the same night.
Around Christmas time I have seen 3 companies in my place be O.O.S.
Always thought this was rolling the dice on disaster as well.
Good thread Ladder47.
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Post by tellmware2go on Feb 11, 2006 17:34:35 GMT -5
Limit the number of dinners on the same night, think about that for a sec, REALLY think about that, great idea, no kidding but feasible, I don't think it could ever work. My firm belief at the Holiday Season, NO ONE should EVER go out of service. There is absolutely no reason. Most parties are in their own firehouses, there should be a riding crew picked out at the start of the evening and they should be always at the ready.
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Post by ofdndfd493 on Feb 11, 2006 20:35:07 GMT -5
I remember one day last summer my company (Oceanside truck) was automatic mutual aid truck for Island Park, Long Beach and Point Lookout (I think it was IP for all calls and LB and PL for anything that sounded good), as well as covering all calls in Oceanside, because one town was going to fire school and the others had their trucks out of service or something like that. We has about 20 guys to staff our two trucks but of course there were no runs at all for the night.
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