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Post by ladder868 on Jun 10, 2007 8:59:01 GMT -5
Does anyone know what make and model electric siren the FDNY uses?
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Post by Luke on Jun 10, 2007 10:42:49 GMT -5
Federal QE I believe... LIFA Rob should be able to chime in as this is his forte
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Post by wqce207a on Jun 10, 2007 13:48:55 GMT -5
Federal PA300 I believe, new rigs get the EQ2B aka "the dying cow"
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Post by chemical on Jun 11, 2007 8:29:05 GMT -5
All I can tell you is from the fourth floor in Hunter's Point, used to sound great as 258 and 115 came by on a call, now sounds like electronic crap. It's like they are embarrased to use it, beep, beep.
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Post by XCAPT1 on Jun 11, 2007 8:50:09 GMT -5
I hate them on ambulances. I'm used to the old way when only TRUCKS had them. We have one on an ambulance. I can't stand it. Centereach and Coram also have then on their ambulances. What's this world coming to. The next thing you know PD will have blue in their light bars.  Stay Safe |
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Post by chemical on Jun 11, 2007 9:05:29 GMT -5
Big Q2 backed up with stuttertone air horns at every intersection. You remember XCAPT1, everytime the truck left the house we still blow the windows out in dispatch.
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Post by EXCAPTMFDENG7INE221 on Jun 12, 2007 10:17:21 GMT -5
pd does have blue lights now in their light bars
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Post by MLFDCO4 on Jun 12, 2007 19:19:14 GMT -5
Any new rigs delivered in 2007 are equipped with the Federal Signal E-Q2B Siren with the artificial electronical sounding Q-Siren tone. All other FDNY pieces of apparatus are equipped with the standard Federal Signal PA300 Electronic Siren. Certain "buffy" FDNY Companies also add mechanical sirens to their front bumpers, including traditional Federal Signal Q-Sirens, and more classic Federal Model 28's and Federal Model EG Sirens. |
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Post by MLFDCO4 on Jun 12, 2007 19:20:43 GMT -5
Also, in New York State, police vehicles can now legally utilize Blue lighting. NCPD, NCPD Highway, NCPD ESB and NYSP all are using Blue LED's in their lighting packages now.
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Post by wqce207a on Jun 12, 2007 19:57:03 GMT -5
Also, in New York State, police vehicles can now legally utilize Blue lighting. NCPD, NCPD Highway, NCPD ESB and NYSP all are using Blue LED's in their lighting packages now. I think XCAP was being sarcastic. |
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Post by chemical on Jun 13, 2007 6:55:10 GMT -5
Any new rigs delivered in 2007 are equipped with the Federal Signal E-Q2B Siren with the artificial electronical sounding Q-Siren tone. All other FDNY pieces of apparatus are equipped with the standard Federal Signal PA300 Electronic Siren. Certain "buffy" FDNY Companies also add mechanical sirens to their front bumpers, including traditional Federal Signal Q-Sirens, and more classic Federal Model 28's and Federal Model EG Sirens. Now I wouldn't call it "buffy", just "dressing" up a Ferrara! : ) |
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Post by XCAPT1 on Jun 13, 2007 7:25:07 GMT -5
Yes, I was being sarcastic in a joking sort of way.
Things change over time. Over my years in the fire service I always heard and believed "Q's" didn't belong on ambulances. Most people knew when they heard a "Q" there was a big ass truck coming. I think drivers were more cautious knowing a truck was coming. Now you never know what's coming.
The PD lights quote was a play on things changing. I heard for many years that we couldn't use blue lights on FD rigs. Now PD and Sheriffs units have them. If blue is more visible then I wonder why the law didn't include all emergency vehicles in it. The state should be out to protect all emergency workers.
Stay Safe
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Post by ESU2422 on Jun 13, 2007 11:18:16 GMT -5
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Post by XCAPT1 on Jun 13, 2007 12:15:43 GMT -5
ESU
I don't have a problem with PD having the blue lights. I just feel if it makes the LEO job safer, it should be incorporated through all the emergency services for the same reason.
Stay Safe
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Post by ESU2422 on Jun 13, 2007 13:33:29 GMT -5
I'm in agreement with you there, blue is most definitely more visible, especially at night or if you're approaching things from behind, it doesn't get lost in the headlights and tail lights. I have no idea why the law didn't include fire apparatus. I also don't know many cops who would even worry about what color lights any FD vehicle was displaying.
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Post by wqce207a on Jun 13, 2007 19:46:30 GMT -5
BUFFS
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Post by bnn327mike on Jun 21, 2007 19:20:53 GMT -5
Also, in New York State, police vehicles can now legally utilize Blue lighting. NCPD, NCPD Highway, NCPD ESB and NYSP all are using Blue LED's in their lighting packages now. I saw a SCPD sector car with 2 blue lights on the rear strobe light bar the other night and it was "very noticeable" and I'm sure as time passes they (P.D.) will want more...... |
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Post by chemical on Jun 23, 2007 9:42:39 GMT -5
Also, in New York State, police vehicles can now legally utilize Blue lighting. NCPD, NCPD Highway, NCPD ESB and NYSP all are using Blue LED's in their lighting packages now. I saw a SCPD sector car with 2 blue lights on the rear strobe light bar the other night and it was "very noticeable" and I'm sure as time passes they (P.D.) will want more...... Look at the data, it's been proven in studies, people who have color blindness, can see blue as blue over any other color in the spectrum, others are precieved as just white. So if it isn't a traffic light arranged in the order as trained to them, (top to bottom), blue is the color you need to alert them and should be mounted on the rear as far as I'm concerned. Just because fire or police personel can recognize a working pumper or police vehicle from a distance on a highway upon approach at speed, does not mean that the very people the lights are meant to warn will. (the general public.) |
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