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Post by TriviaFD on Nov 14, 2005 13:48:11 GMT -5
What is a signal 66? I hear it used lot in the 6th battalion
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Post by mikjus on Nov 14, 2005 14:20:49 GMT -5
66 is for fire-com it is also the number of the last department to be with fire-come and to have left them to be on their own .That being North Mass No department in the 6th is dispatch by fire-com
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Post by TriviaFD on Nov 14, 2005 17:27:37 GMT -5
Not ! Let's try again mike! I hear 650, 630 and 610 saying to the first units " Signal 66 you have signal 14 going.. I never hear firecom saying that MIKE
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Post by truckie4life on Nov 14, 2005 17:46:38 GMT -5
sig 66 i belive means the call came from 911 or firecom and not directly at 650, 610, 690, etc.....
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Post by TriviaFD on Nov 14, 2005 18:19:36 GMT -5
thank you trukie, that's what i thought, call came in from 911 ;D
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Post by mikjus on Nov 14, 2005 18:28:52 GMT -5
What I posted is correct try "reading it again "over and over
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Post by tellmware2go on Nov 14, 2005 21:25:02 GMT -5
The Signal originated when North Massapequa was the first Sixth Battalion department to go to Fire Com to do their dispatching. The rest of the battalion thought they would let them know their thoughts on a sixth battalion department be dispatched by Fire Com and at the same time thought it would be nice to be able to tell units nicely that the call came from Fire Com. In MOST cases, not all, the call came from 911 which means the police are responding also. An automatic alarm called in to Fire Com for a sixth battalion department is a Signal 66 also but without a policeman.
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Post by TriviaFD on Nov 14, 2005 21:34:27 GMT -5
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Post by rockrolls on Nov 18, 2005 23:02:16 GMT -5
Signal 66 is not on any of the signal lists, why not just tell them how all calls were rec'd - is a Signal 66 going to get a faster response from any units - doubt it - a call is a call, who cares where it came from, and why do you have to tell them that 14 is going - don't they trust you make sure that 14 is going to the calls that they want them at ? - Sounds like to much talking on the air.
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Post by tellmware2go on Nov 19, 2005 21:42:13 GMT -5
Signal 66 is supposed to be a knock on North Massapequa for leaving the "norm" and going to Fire com. It is by no means an official signal in Nassau. The only good reason I can think of for telling incoming units that the police are also responding, is if they happen to run into each other while responding, the FD will at least know where the PD unit maybe heading. Could avoid an accident. Otherwise there are plenty of departments that use plain language to say the police are responding. It also helps when the Chief calls for the PD after he arrives. If he was paying attention when the called was dispatched sometimes he can save himself a request since "it's a signal 66, 14 responding".
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Post by rockrolls on Nov 19, 2005 22:13:22 GMT -5
why not make signal 66 for a call from firecom and a signal 67 a call from firecom with police responding - this would make better use of air time and it sounds like the 6th batt only informs the 1st chief on the road, you would think that the chief knows what calls he wants the police at ? - when i hear a delta or echo call on the air, I know that the police are also going and like a signal 8 in some nassau departments - people know what truck is going - someone said that firecom is not dispatching the 6th Batt - I think thats wrong, i have heard firecom dispatch levittown, and east meadow?
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Post by ESU2422 on Nov 19, 2005 22:18:30 GMT -5
There are certain types of calls that you'd think common sense would indicate that the PD is responding to as well, like auto accidents and aideds. When I am sent to an assignment I already know that if it's a fire you guys had better be notified, that's a no brainer so if you're going to an auto accident isn't it a no brainer PD is responding, unless of course the chief is taking the accident report for me. I personally think using all these dopey codes and signals is a waste of time. A code for enroute, at scene make some sense, they save air time but the other stuff gets in the way, plain English works , you have enough going thru your head responding to the call without trying to remember what the codes are.
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Post by truckie4life on Nov 20, 2005 12:51:31 GMT -5
when did n. mass start being disp by firecom?
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Post by Gargamel37 on Nov 20, 2005 12:53:17 GMT -5
I think back some years they used to be, but then went to Bethpage in the late 90's or early 00's (I cant remember) and now they're dispatched by Massapequa.
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Post by ladder47 on Nov 20, 2005 18:54:53 GMT -5
A signal 66 in Levittown is call the ladies aux....a 67 hazmat call...and a 68 a members family......even the mighty sixth batt. cant agree on signals....I thought it was a sig.70 that was the tricky one...in Uniondale sig.70 is a working CAR fire.....lawrence cedarhurst sig.70 is an automatic alarm and in Lynbrook a 70 is a members family hehehehhh I luv this stuff.
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Post by rockrolls on Nov 20, 2005 23:25:17 GMT -5
So, this Signal 66 is not a 6th Batt. Signal - Most of the time I only hear that northern bellmore dispatching unit use the Signal, I think it's called 650 or somthing like that - you would think that all the dispatchers in nassau county would use the same signals - what's next a 10-75 to the Box K - What's a Signal 98 - seems like another confusing signal ?
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Post by ladder47 on Nov 21, 2005 9:21:57 GMT -5
A signal 98 means SMOKE SHOWING lame.....just say smoke showing.....it makes it harder on the dispatchers as in most cases a sig.98 means re-alert as such....now the dispatcher is re-alerting 2 times on 10 and 1 or 2 on the batt freq. 9 times out of 10 it turns into a sig.10....then he has to re-alert again for the 10.....all the while the chiefs or units may be giving orders or messages and the dispatcher is tied up with all this nonsense....MAN UP and make a decision sig 10 or not. Oh p.s.......do a size up prior to calling the signals.....I love the 98's or 10's from a block away and its only a dumpster or car.
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Post by TriviaFD on Nov 21, 2005 10:46:31 GMT -5
Hey guys Wantagh FD (690) Just sign on the air 11/21/05 at 1045 hrs with a car fire for station 2 and station 4 and at the end of his transmission he said signal 66
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Post by truckie25 on Nov 24, 2005 2:13:17 GMT -5
if im not mistaken, signal 66 in particular sixth battalion towns actually means: give caller a telephone sticker ...which in the long run means call not directly received but rather came in threw 911 ;D
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Post by truckie25 on Nov 24, 2005 2:15:11 GMT -5
and signal 98 usually means smoke showing...usually a one room fire or something with a quick knock down.... heres a question for the group... what do most towns use as a signal for cardic arrest??? the only signal i heard that i recognized has been code red
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Post by valleytruck on Nov 24, 2005 3:29:28 GMT -5
I hear Code 99 for active cardiac arrests used alot
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Post by ninthwonder on Nov 24, 2005 16:04:41 GMT -5
Hey guys Wantagh FD (690) Just sign on the air 11/21/05 at 1045 hrs with a car fire for station 2 and station 4 and at the end of his transmission he said signal 66 it means the call came from firecom and alot of cardiac arrests are transmitted as a Code Red
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Post by cody on Nov 25, 2005 19:20:27 GMT -5
just to let you know a Sig 66 in North Mass is a Firefighters Family....always has been
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Post by TriviaFD on Nov 26, 2005 15:58:49 GMT -5
the working fire in N. Mass couple weeks ago came over as a signal 66
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Post by nmfdt1 on Nov 29, 2005 12:55:51 GMT -5
Signal 98 is like a 1 alarm fire. In N Merrick and most other FD's in the vicinity if they pull up and have smoke showing they just transmit that in plane language. If it turns out to be something significant then the 98 or 10 is transmitted. Every Department seems to do somethign slightly different with the 98 transmission.
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Post by mfddispatcher30 on Dec 9, 2005 16:10:27 GMT -5
A sig 66 in MFD means a call came from firecom a fireman's family is a signal 63 and in N Mass Fd a sig 66 is a firemans family, other wise when the first unit is on the road they are just told the call came from fire com.
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Post by ladder3 on Dec 9, 2005 17:36:47 GMT -5
Besides a fireman's family call what's the diference were the call came from firecom or direct. Giving a signal or saying from firecom is useless radio traffic.
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Post by mfddispatcher30 on Dec 9, 2005 17:58:36 GMT -5
I dont know been like that as long as I remeber
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Post by nmfdt1 on Dec 9, 2005 19:59:05 GMT -5
66 is announces bc it lets responding units know the call went through 911 and as a result PD is responding.
Whent he call is direct 14 is not automatically notified
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Post by ladder3 on Dec 10, 2005 15:00:17 GMT -5
And this helps us how? By knowing the pd is responding or not responding, doesn't or it shouldn't effect the way you respond or operated at a scene. again just a waste of air time
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